Last October, I had the privilege to teach at the annual conference of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors (ACBC). During the week it was also a great joy to sit down with executive director Dale Johnson, to talk about the importance of interpreting all our suffering through the lens of a God-centered theology.

Today, I’d like to share that 12-minute podcast episode with you.

TIL 252: A God-Centered Theology of Suffering (feat. Paul Tautges)

Today, I’d also like to admonish you to share this podcast with someone you know who is suffering some form of trial. You can do that here.

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